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<b.Chants of the Inner Light</b>
chanted by G
The hymn towards the unexpected has begun...
I saw these Visions when i was envisioning that i have a Vision of myself envisioning me...
What then does my visions say, or how could my Vision speak when i saw its mouth is nowhere to be found?
Shall i continue being obsessed with my visions before my visions obsessively overwhelm me?
If my Visions came from above, do i need to catch it up or is the Vision found within me?
Is my Vision a religious oracle that speaks to me? Or is the Oracle of Vision the Vision itself?
My Visions speak to me mouth-less, headless, soulless, spiritless...how do I know my visions are visions when I do not know if I am the vision and not Me?
If i dream of a vision how do i envision my dream?
is vision the only road to take my imagination or is the imagination the road where not only vision could walk with me?
How does my vision come? Does it find me idle and like a thief at night unexpectedly comes to me and steal something from me, and in that moment made itself aware?
If my visions are not from me do i need to use something to make it mine?
Do I need those plants, those drugs, those shrooms, those needles, those foolish devices just to gain a vision and be inspired? Is inspiration too poor that i need some adrenaline to force inspiration to come?
Is vision a glorification of me? Or is it an inspector telling me not to glorify myself? Is Vision to show a lie? A lie which propagates itself out of heavenly psuedosophies?
Is Vision dressed in material form? I thought it couldnt be seen nor heard nor touched? But why do so many foolish priest carve out things whom they say are devices of the spirit?Is the spirit material?
Is the spirit glorified when dressed with the light of lies, the jewels of psychedelia? Is spirit weak that we need to dress it in all those honky ponky electromagnetic psuedo-effects? Is spirit itself poor that we need to dress it with all those pompous textures?
Is spirit itself not complex that we need to bombard it with unworthy complex visages?
This is the Vision that came to me...I saw no face, heard no angels, felt no touch, tasted no nirvana, seen any buddha, meditated foolishly, to gain it and unravel the sphinx of its message...it found me and i voiced it out
chanted by G
The hymn towards the unexpected has begun...
I saw these Visions when i was envisioning that i have a Vision of myself envisioning me...
What then does my visions say, or how could my Vision speak when i saw its mouth is nowhere to be found?
Shall i continue being obsessed with my visions before my visions obsessively overwhelm me?
If my Visions came from above, do i need to catch it up or is the Vision found within me?
Is my Vision a religious oracle that speaks to me? Or is the Oracle of Vision the Vision itself?
My Visions speak to me mouth-less, headless, soulless, spiritless...how do I know my visions are visions when I do not know if I am the vision and not Me?
If i dream of a vision how do i envision my dream?
is vision the only road to take my imagination or is the imagination the road where not only vision could walk with me?
How does my vision come? Does it find me idle and like a thief at night unexpectedly comes to me and steal something from me, and in that moment made itself aware?
If my visions are not from me do i need to use something to make it mine?
Do I need those plants, those drugs, those shrooms, those needles, those foolish devices just to gain a vision and be inspired? Is inspiration too poor that i need some adrenaline to force inspiration to come?
Is vision a glorification of me? Or is it an inspector telling me not to glorify myself? Is Vision to show a lie? A lie which propagates itself out of heavenly psuedosophies?
Is Vision dressed in material form? I thought it couldnt be seen nor heard nor touched? But why do so many foolish priest carve out things whom they say are devices of the spirit?Is the spirit material?
Is the spirit glorified when dressed with the light of lies, the jewels of psychedelia? Is spirit weak that we need to dress it in all those honky ponky electromagnetic psuedo-effects? Is spirit itself poor that we need to dress it with all those pompous textures?
Is spirit itself not complex that we need to bombard it with unworthy complex visages?
This is the Vision that came to me...I saw no face, heard no angels, felt no touch, tasted no nirvana, seen any buddha, meditated foolishly, to gain it and unravel the sphinx of its message...it found me and i voiced it out
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sometimes Vision finds us...all we have to do is have it manifest in words, in music, in art, ineverything we could at least do...
the ff Vision came to me...i wrote it down for you
Gromyko
These questions, or some of them, seem routed in the conflict of the internal and external. A vision of this nature is subjective, as only you can see it - and is subjective even to us when documented, as we all perceive narration through our own experiences and memory - so you are left to question personally, is the vision internal and produced from the canals of your imagination alone, or is the vision triggered externally by a greater force unknown to man?
Frankly, the mind is a mechanism we know little about, its cognitive machinations elude science still - but we understand very well what is internal to our world, but 'vision' is not internal to the material realm, it is meta-physical. Therefore, to make 'visionary' claims on topics that concern oneself, one is making non-cognitive and conceptual statements, that do not reflect evidential occurrences or statistical/analytical knowledge of the internal world.
Human beings understand very little on certain aspects of the metaphysical, and we attempt to tie various empty words to our concepts until they 'die the death of a thousand qualifications' (flew) - but what is important in your vision (which is conceptual, and concerns concepts - e.g. The goals of surrealism, or the pagan hypocritical practices and metaphysical belief of the Catholic Church)is the element of faith.
Faith is the natural cognitive mechanism we all possess, some of course lose it, others ardently indulge in it - be it faith in God, or Love, or Justice: all of which are difficult to define and are conceptual by nature. Your vision is a glorification of your matured thinking, but there are no solid grounds to doubt it as a 'lie', as to suggest so would 'materialise' it - which is an unfair fallacy ( to derive cognitive conclusions from non-cognitive statements). One can not measure the metaphysical via reality.
the ff Vision came to me...i wrote it down for you
Gromyko
These questions, or some of them, seem routed in the conflict of the internal and external. A vision of this nature is subjective, as only you can see it - and is subjective even to us when documented, as we all perceive narration through our own experiences and memory - so you are left to question personally, is the vision internal and produced from the canals of your imagination alone, or is the vision triggered externally by a greater force unknown to man?
Frankly, the mind is a mechanism we know little about, its cognitive machinations elude science still - but we understand very well what is internal to our world, but 'vision' is not internal to the material realm, it is meta-physical. Therefore, to make 'visionary' claims on topics that concern oneself, one is making non-cognitive and conceptual statements, that do not reflect evidential occurrences or statistical/analytical knowledge of the internal world.
Human beings understand very little on certain aspects of the metaphysical, and we attempt to tie various empty words to our concepts until they 'die the death of a thousand qualifications' (flew) - but what is important in your vision (which is conceptual, and concerns concepts - e.g. The goals of surrealism, or the pagan hypocritical practices and metaphysical belief of the Catholic Church)is the element of faith.
Faith is the natural cognitive mechanism we all possess, some of course lose it, others ardently indulge in it - be it faith in God, or Love, or Justice: all of which are difficult to define and are conceptual by nature. Your vision is a glorification of your matured thinking, but there are no solid grounds to doubt it as a 'lie', as to suggest so would 'materialise' it - which is an unfair fallacy ( to derive cognitive conclusions from non-cognitive statements). One can not measure the metaphysical via reality.
© 2009 - 2024 gromyko
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there is ever only one self...
there are not two selfes.....there is always just one beeingness one life.
this one life may be interpreted from a second perspective...like you step out of your life and create a mental gap between your self...
and again this does not disturb the fact that there is just one self
to say with buddhist dialectic
a vision is not mine, nor is it from above, it neither these two nor is it one of them alone, nor is it both together etc...
or in simple advaitic words: it is like it is
if you feel to use hallucinogens or opium do it, if you feel to avoid them avoid them....
highly realized teachers do use material things, like a vajra or some salt in tantric rituals....these things are represnetations of the one beeing...you see, in absolut terms all matter is his matter, we posses nothing..and as all is his/hers all is divine
if you ave visions or innen experiences you can be sure that tey are nothing other then your own self...sometimes it may be inner light and bliss, sometimes pictures that come unasked, energies etc...all of it is nothing other then your self, even if you take mushromms you expereince yourself, and not Karl Heinz Schmidt
there are not two selfes.....there is always just one beeingness one life.
this one life may be interpreted from a second perspective...like you step out of your life and create a mental gap between your self...
and again this does not disturb the fact that there is just one self
to say with buddhist dialectic
a vision is not mine, nor is it from above, it neither these two nor is it one of them alone, nor is it both together etc...
or in simple advaitic words: it is like it is
if you feel to use hallucinogens or opium do it, if you feel to avoid them avoid them....
highly realized teachers do use material things, like a vajra or some salt in tantric rituals....these things are represnetations of the one beeing...you see, in absolut terms all matter is his matter, we posses nothing..and as all is his/hers all is divine
if you ave visions or innen experiences you can be sure that tey are nothing other then your own self...sometimes it may be inner light and bliss, sometimes pictures that come unasked, energies etc...all of it is nothing other then your self, even if you take mushromms you expereince yourself, and not Karl Heinz Schmidt